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		<title>Comment on Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? by simply wondered</title>
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		<dc:creator>simply wondered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my comment was surprise rather than a complaint, i assure you. 

and i owe mr woollard an apology for confusing a tory with an ex-tory. we should perhaps share an ex-g&amp;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my comment was surprise rather than a complaint, i assure you. </p>
<p>and i owe mr woollard an apology for confusing a tory with an ex-tory. we should perhaps share an ex-g&amp;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Straw to act on &#8216;draconian&#8217; UK libel laws by charonqc</title>
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		<dc:creator>charonqc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter / Matt - The present government has previous in terms of introducing laws after a satisfactory amount of knee jerking.

I, too, will believe it when I see it.   I don&#039;t believe that the government did put it in that Motorway Cafe menu of a Queen&#039;s Speech they handed to her Majesty the other day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter / Matt &#8211; The present government has previous in terms of introducing laws after a satisfactory amount of knee jerking.</p>
<p>I, too, will believe it when I see it.   I don&#8217;t believe that the government did put it in that Motorway Cafe menu of a Queen&#8217;s Speech they handed to her Majesty the other day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gordon&#8230; I&#8217;ll make you an offer you can&#8217;t refuse&#8230; by white rabbit</title>
		<link>http://charonqc.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/gordon-ill-make-you-an-offer-you-cant-refuse/#comment-23039</link>
		<dc:creator>white rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Tonight, Brown, you sleep with the feeeeshes...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tonight, Brown, you sleep with the feeeeshes&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postcard from The Staterooms: 21 November 09 by Obiter</title>
		<link>http://charonqc.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/postcard-from-the-staterooms-21-november-09/#comment-23038</link>
		<dc:creator>Obiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bar is bowing to the inevitable - the Legal Services Act 2007 would force change anyway.  Better to reform yourself before they do it for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bar is bowing to the inevitable &#8211; the Legal Services Act 2007 would force change anyway.  Better to reform yourself before they do it for you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Straw to act on &#8216;draconian&#8217; UK libel laws by Matt Wardman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we nationalise all Libel Lawyers so the service breaks?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Straw to act on &#8216;draconian&#8217; UK libel laws by Matt Wardman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll believe it when it&#039;s on the Statute book.

Was it in the Queen&#039;s Speech? Did I blink?

Or can he do a Democratic Diktat? 

Perhaps the facility to do so was in a law not debated while they were talking about foxes for a year.

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll believe it when it&#8217;s on the Statute book.</p>
<p>Was it in the Queen&#8217;s Speech? Did I blink?</p>
<p>Or can he do a Democratic Diktat? </p>
<p>Perhaps the facility to do so was in a law not debated while they were talking about foxes for a year.</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Straw to act on &#8216;draconian&#8217; UK libel laws by Peter Hargreaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hargreaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Vile and undemocratic laws&quot; - maybe they are but do you actually trust Straw to make them less so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Vile and undemocratic laws&#8221; &#8211; maybe they are but do you actually trust Straw to make them less so?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gordon&#8230; I&#8217;ll make you an offer you can&#8217;t refuse&#8230; by Peter Hargreaves</title>
		<link>http://charonqc.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/gordon-ill-make-you-an-offer-you-cant-refuse/#comment-23034</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hargreaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice on Charon.  Simple answer - Gordon says to Mandy - &quot;Do you wish to give up your peerage because the Foreign Secretary really ought to be in the ELECTED House of Parliament - the House of Commons.&quot;

I think we can all guess the answer to that.

We have far too many unelected people (Lord This and Baroness That) holding ever more important portfolios and beyond the reach of elected MPs to challenge them properly.  In the Commons, it is more and more the case that you only get the monkey and not the organ-grinder.  Whatever next - a return to the PM in the Lords?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice on Charon.  Simple answer &#8211; Gordon says to Mandy &#8211; &#8220;Do you wish to give up your peerage because the Foreign Secretary really ought to be in the ELECTED House of Parliament &#8211; the House of Commons.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think we can all guess the answer to that.</p>
<p>We have far too many unelected people (Lord This and Baroness That) holding ever more important portfolios and beyond the reach of elected MPs to challenge them properly.  In the Commons, it is more and more the case that you only get the monkey and not the organ-grinder.  Whatever next &#8211; a return to the PM in the Lords?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gordon&#8230; I&#8217;ll make you an offer you can&#8217;t refuse&#8230; by jameshigham</title>
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		<dc:creator>jameshigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandelson is so openly one of Them that it makes one wonder whether he&#039;s not the decoy or the stool pigeon.  Anyway, welcome to their new EU.  Salute your new Prez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandelson is so openly one of Them that it makes one wonder whether he&#8217;s not the decoy or the stool pigeon.  Anyway, welcome to their new EU.  Salute your new Prez.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gordon&#8230; I&#8217;ll make you an offer you can&#8217;t refuse&#8230; by John H</title>
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		<dc:creator>John H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the plus side, if Mandy became foreign secretary then perhaps &quot;three strikes&quot; would have less chance of becoming law. Though we&#039;d need to hope that David Geffen doesn&#039;t have any pressing foreign policy concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the plus side, if Mandy became foreign secretary then perhaps &#8220;three strikes&#8221; would have less chance of becoming law. Though we&#8217;d need to hope that David Geffen doesn&#8217;t have any pressing foreign policy concerns.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? by charonqc</title>
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		<dc:creator>charonqc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SW - I believe in freedom of speech, as do you and most people who pop into my small part of legal insanity on the blogosphere... so all welcome.

Geoffrey:  I am quite taken by the independent tickets... trouble is finding independents in all constituencies.

I shall investigate further.... 

Looking forward to the Sundays to see what political nonsense pops up.  Bound to be some, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SW &#8211; I believe in freedom of speech, as do you and most people who pop into my small part of legal insanity on the blogosphere&#8230; so all welcome.</p>
<p>Geoffrey:  I am quite taken by the independent tickets&#8230; trouble is finding independents in all constituencies.</p>
<p>I shall investigate further&#8230;. </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Sundays to see what political nonsense pops up.  Bound to be some, of course.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another nail banged into the coffin of liberties&#8230; by Obiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silber J should be reversed on appeal.  The judges should say NO to further extension of special advocacy unless there is specific statutory authority for it.  The judges seem to be happily engaged in judicial legislation.  I agree entirely with Clive Stafford-Smith&#039;s comment quited above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silber J should be reversed on appeal.  The judges should say NO to further extension of special advocacy unless there is specific statutory authority for it.  The judges seem to be happily engaged in judicial legislation.  I agree entirely with Clive Stafford-Smith&#8217;s comment quited above.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This secret isle&#8230;&#8230; by Obiter</title>
		<link>http://charonqc.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/this-secret-isle/#comment-23029</link>
		<dc:creator>Obiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charon QC - you are spot on re this secrecy business.  It is becoming endemic and is hardly being challenged by the judiciary.  We also have far too many unelected &quot;Lords&quot; and &quot;Baronesses&quot; telling people what to do.  Are we still in the Middle Ages?  Could be forgiven for thinking so in what makes of a democracy in the UK these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charon QC &#8211; you are spot on re this secrecy business.  It is becoming endemic and is hardly being challenged by the judiciary.  We also have far too many unelected &#8220;Lords&#8221; and &#8220;Baronesses&#8221; telling people what to do.  Are we still in the Middle Ages?  Could be forgiven for thinking so in what makes of a democracy in the UK these days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? by Geoffrey Woollard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Woollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me the title &#039;Tory&#039; is now an insult for I am very much an &#039;ex-Tory.&#039; Ah seen de light, man, and ah&#039;m an independent (as, actually, are a surprising number of people after this year&#039;s expenses fiasco). If you can find a good and useful independent who doesn&#039;t need to toe any Party line - worst of all the Tory Party line - then give the guy or gal the once over. There are good people out there who have no Party allegiance and are merely trying to do their best for their local communities. Give &#039;em a chance in the House of Commons: you could do worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me the title &#8216;Tory&#8217; is now an insult for I am very much an &#8216;ex-Tory.&#8217; Ah seen de light, man, and ah&#8217;m an independent (as, actually, are a surprising number of people after this year&#8217;s expenses fiasco). If you can find a good and useful independent who doesn&#8217;t need to toe any Party line &#8211; worst of all the Tory Party line &#8211; then give the guy or gal the once over. There are good people out there who have no Party allegiance and are merely trying to do their best for their local communities. Give &#8216;em a chance in the House of Commons: you could do worse.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? by simply wondered</title>
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		<dc:creator>simply wondered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tories massing at your blog, chaon? whatever next? turnip sandwiches and g&amp;t&#039;s all round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tories massing at your blog, chaon? whatever next? turnip sandwiches and g&amp;t&#8217;s all round.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? by Geoffrey Woollard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Woollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As they still say in my part of Cambridgeshire:

You make oi larf!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As they still say in my part of Cambridgeshire:</p>
<p>You make oi larf!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? by charonqc</title>
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		<dc:creator>charonqc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Geoffrey... a pleasure to have your comments!

May I suggest a liberal (small &#039;l&#039;) glass of Rioja?  Works wonders for the voice and banishes colds by putting the fear of god into them.

Enjoy your weekend.

PS... not to keen on &#039;creationist&#039; thinking... I discovered the earth was not flat either some years back. Bizarrely, my cousin, who escaped from Scotland at the age of 13 to Canada became a lay preacher in one of those mumbo jumbo temples they have over there,  was absolutely convinced the Earth was only 4500 years old.  I got one of my geology books out and pointed to various fossils.  He smiled in a beatific way and said that God was bountiful and put them there... underground for us to find at some point in time.  It was at this point that I gave up trying to have a sensible discussion with him and got mildly over refreshed.

1o years later I met my cousin again in London.  No mention whatsoever of religion.  I can only assume that he he had been  cured.  We drank rather a lot and he asked me casually, apropos of nothing if I would like a brown bear.  I  agreed that a brown bear would enhance my life and thought no more of it it.  My cousin returned to Canada.  Six weeks later I received a very large box - and I mean large -  from DHL.

Inside was a dead brown bear...or at least the skin, complete with a stuffed head.  He had, apparently shot the bear on his ranch with police approval because it was a danger to kids at the outward bound establishment he was running.

Fortunately, I met a lovely Swedish woman half my age - we lived together for a few years and on partin, amicably,  I gave her the brown bear.  It seemed appropriate!

Life can, indeed, be strange. More of the same, for me, I hope. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Geoffrey&#8230; a pleasure to have your comments!</p>
<p>May I suggest a liberal (small &#8216;l&#8217;) glass of Rioja?  Works wonders for the voice and banishes colds by putting the fear of god into them.</p>
<p>Enjoy your weekend.</p>
<p>PS&#8230; not to keen on &#8216;creationist&#8217; thinking&#8230; I discovered the earth was not flat either some years back. Bizarrely, my cousin, who escaped from Scotland at the age of 13 to Canada became a lay preacher in one of those mumbo jumbo temples they have over there,  was absolutely convinced the Earth was only 4500 years old.  I got one of my geology books out and pointed to various fossils.  He smiled in a beatific way and said that God was bountiful and put them there&#8230; underground for us to find at some point in time.  It was at this point that I gave up trying to have a sensible discussion with him and got mildly over refreshed.</p>
<p>1o years later I met my cousin again in London.  No mention whatsoever of religion.  I can only assume that he he had been  cured.  We drank rather a lot and he asked me casually, apropos of nothing if I would like a brown bear.  I  agreed that a brown bear would enhance my life and thought no more of it it.  My cousin returned to Canada.  Six weeks later I received a very large box &#8211; and I mean large &#8211;  from DHL.</p>
<p>Inside was a dead brown bear&#8230;or at least the skin, complete with a stuffed head.  He had, apparently shot the bear on his ranch with police approval because it was a danger to kids at the outward bound establishment he was running.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I met a lovely Swedish woman half my age &#8211; we lived together for a few years and on partin, amicably,  I gave her the brown bear.  It seemed appropriate!</p>
<p>Life can, indeed, be strange. More of the same, for me, I hope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? by Geoffrey Woollard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Woollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I do hope that Geoffrey will keep an eye on the diary of Baggers…. Geoffrey is none too keen on Baggers’ enthusiasm for hunting. I suspect that Baggers won’t be doing a great deal of it, largely because I have absolutely no interest in hunting myself … and cannot really see how anyone can get a kick from hunting an animal to death for pleasure.&quot;

I will certainly keep a close eye on dear old Baggers (and his lady wife, Cybil), especially as his creator (do we believe in creation on this blog?) is making all of the right noises.

However, the &#039;shadow&#039; DEFRA secretary is definitely on my hit list. Nick Herbert (whom I used to know when he was a junior at Conservative Central Office) and his Countryside Alliance buddies are very much mistaken in conflating the plight of rural post offices, village schools, district hospital services and local police stations with his and their persistent public passion and only-too-real pet subject - that of &#039;un-banning&#039; hunting and hare coursing. 

Mr Herbert is also terribly out-of-tune with enlightened rural electors and, in pursuing his prey, he is wrong electorally and wrong politically. He is also wrong morally and the people can see this. 

He and his closest closet should be shoved to the outer margins of a party that pretends and purports to be fit for purpose in government. 

If he and the others in his closest closet are not soon shoved out, the Tories will for ever be electorally, politically and morally condemned as the truly nasty party.

There, I feel better already! (I have an awful cold at present and I am temporarily and uncharacteristically speechless).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do hope that Geoffrey will keep an eye on the diary of Baggers…. Geoffrey is none too keen on Baggers’ enthusiasm for hunting. I suspect that Baggers won’t be doing a great deal of it, largely because I have absolutely no interest in hunting myself … and cannot really see how anyone can get a kick from hunting an animal to death for pleasure.&#8221;</p>
<p>I will certainly keep a close eye on dear old Baggers (and his lady wife, Cybil), especially as his creator (do we believe in creation on this blog?) is making all of the right noises.</p>
<p>However, the &#8217;shadow&#8217; DEFRA secretary is definitely on my hit list. Nick Herbert (whom I used to know when he was a junior at Conservative Central Office) and his Countryside Alliance buddies are very much mistaken in conflating the plight of rural post offices, village schools, district hospital services and local police stations with his and their persistent public passion and only-too-real pet subject &#8211; that of &#8216;un-banning&#8217; hunting and hare coursing. </p>
<p>Mr Herbert is also terribly out-of-tune with enlightened rural electors and, in pursuing his prey, he is wrong electorally and wrong politically. He is also wrong morally and the people can see this. </p>
<p>He and his closest closet should be shoved to the outer margins of a party that pretends and purports to be fit for purpose in government. </p>
<p>If he and the others in his closest closet are not soon shoved out, the Tories will for ever be electorally, politically and morally condemned as the truly nasty party.</p>
<p>There, I feel better already! (I have an awful cold at present and I am temporarily and uncharacteristically speechless).</p>
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		<dc:creator>Rive Gauche: Hubris, schadenfreude, dark forces and injustice&#8230; what more could you want on a Friday? &#171; Charon QC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Pupillage a lot more difficult&#8230;. by Anon</title>
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		<description>My experience at the bar as a young female from an extremely working-class background has been horrific. I worked extremely hard at University and secured a pupillage early on. However, I have struggled with tenancy. It is clear that the elitism of the bar is scandalous. I am a very good barrister, I have built a successful practice, I love my job and am very good at it, and have huge backing from the clerks. I am also well liked by members of chambers (or at least those who I have met). However, gaining tenancy (at some chambers at least) is not about being good at your job. It is a popularity contest. Therefore, the people who make it are quite often the ones who aren&#039;t as good at their job, who aren&#039;t as successful in building a practice, but who are very competent at &quot;playing the game&quot;. Succeeding at the bar is primarily a matter of politics. You seem to be far better hating your job and being terrible at it, yet putting all of your efforts to the good old-fashioned task of &quot;brown nosing&quot;. Of course, given the ingrained elitist attitudes of most chambers, particularly at the senior end, to be successful in this it helps if you are middle class, and have shared interests with the more &quot;old boys network&quot; barristers in chambers, who are the people with influence when it comes to tenancy decisions. It is a disgrace. There is real unfairness not only in obtaining pupillage but also in obtaining tenancy. Despite the bar protesting about equal opportunities and about opening its doors to people from underpriviledged backgrounds, this is not going to happen as there is no transparency and no accountability. There should be regulation of tenancy decisions and the tenancy decision process to ensure that it is fair. Unfortunately, people who signify the future of the bar are flocking away from it with tens of thousands of pounds of debt due to the masked snobbery and unfairness that permeates the tenancy decision making process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience at the bar as a young female from an extremely working-class background has been horrific. I worked extremely hard at University and secured a pupillage early on. However, I have struggled with tenancy. It is clear that the elitism of the bar is scandalous. I am a very good barrister, I have built a successful practice, I love my job and am very good at it, and have huge backing from the clerks. I am also well liked by members of chambers (or at least those who I have met). However, gaining tenancy (at some chambers at least) is not about being good at your job. It is a popularity contest. Therefore, the people who make it are quite often the ones who aren&#8217;t as good at their job, who aren&#8217;t as successful in building a practice, but who are very competent at &#8220;playing the game&#8221;. Succeeding at the bar is primarily a matter of politics. You seem to be far better hating your job and being terrible at it, yet putting all of your efforts to the good old-fashioned task of &#8220;brown nosing&#8221;. Of course, given the ingrained elitist attitudes of most chambers, particularly at the senior end, to be successful in this it helps if you are middle class, and have shared interests with the more &#8220;old boys network&#8221; barristers in chambers, who are the people with influence when it comes to tenancy decisions. It is a disgrace. There is real unfairness not only in obtaining pupillage but also in obtaining tenancy. Despite the bar protesting about equal opportunities and about opening its doors to people from underpriviledged backgrounds, this is not going to happen as there is no transparency and no accountability. There should be regulation of tenancy decisions and the tenancy decision process to ensure that it is fair. Unfortunately, people who signify the future of the bar are flocking away from it with tens of thousands of pounds of debt due to the masked snobbery and unfairness that permeates the tenancy decision making process.</p>
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