Archive for July 8th, 2009

Beyond parody… beyond indulgence…

Nick Griffin’s views are popular in the UK with  the Yoberati or knuckle dragging classes, so why should we be surprised when he goes on the BBC and suggests that the EU should start sinking boats with illegal immiigrants on them?

Why any of us continue to give him air time is baffling – I suspect, as I am doing now, so that we can express our disgust for this miserable excuse for a politician and hope that his views, when aired, disgust people and bring a sense of shame to those who like and support  his views.

It is an interesting point.  Are we right or wrong to give him a platform?  He is elected… and, as with everyone else, he has a right to express his views…  but does  that mean we ‘should’ give him air time or column inches?

The BBC has the story: Sink immigrants’ boats – Griffin

The interviewer, BBC Correspondent Shirin Wheeler, said: “I don’t think the EU is in the business of murdering people at sea.”

Mr Griffin replied: “I didn’t say anyone should be murdered at sea – I say boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya.”



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Unsilent Partners: Response on Madoff

I have posted my response to Colin Samuels’  post on Madoff sentence at the foot of his post.

We are keen to involve as many people as possible – so if you wish to suggest topics for comment and analysis, assist us in writing a section of the post (anonymously or with full attribution and linking to you own blog) please get in touch at mikesp@unsilentpartners.com

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Torture: Pleased with our country?

The Guardian reports today:

“The true depth of British involvement in the torture of terrorism suspects overseas and the manner in which that complicity is concealed behind a cloak of courtroom secrecy was laid bare last night when David Davis MP detailed the way in which one counter-terrorism operation led directly to a man suffering brutal mistreatment.

In a dramatic intervention using the protection of parliamentary privilege, the former shadow home secretary revealed how MI5 and Greater Manchester police effectively sub-contracted the torture of Rangzieb Ahmed to a Pakistani intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), whose routine use of torture has been widely documented.”

On the assumption that what David Davis said, using the protection of parliamentary privilege, is true, this raises a number of rather worrying issues

1. The extent to which the Prime Minister, Foreign Secretary (MI6), The Home Secretary (MI5) and the Justice Secretary were aware of the use of torture by Mi5 – and the rest of the Cabinet?

2.  If they were aware of the use of torture indirectly (or directly) by our own security services did they sanction it?, approve it? turn a blind eye to it? or call for it to stop?

3.  With instances, albeit rare, of brutal treatment of prisoners in Iraq by the British army, the use of excessive force by Police in terror cases (Charles Menezes comes to mind) is it now the only way we can deal with terror? and if so, are we comfortable with this as a civilised nation?  The senior law lords have, not surprisingly, condemned the use of torture and excessive force and secret evidence and control orders  in combatting terror.

4.  Do we have to pay the price of such oppressive measures to maintain the security of our nation? Is this the the new real politik?

5.  Are we in danger of winning the war but losing the peace?

6.  Has Britain, as a nation, always used such ‘secret’ force to maintain liberty and freedom?  We have been involved in World Wars and serious military conflict for nearly every year in the last hundred years.  Is it realistic to suggest, in war, that there are any rules at all and the reality is that if terror measures are used on us, we are released from the obligation to fight fair and clean?

I do hope not…. but what is the reality in modern Britain?   Has David Davis got it right? It seems to me that a rather ominous silence is enveloping on  this issue – the blogs are not exactly falling over themselves to comment and the newspapers and mainstream television mediaare not, when I last looked, giving Mr Davis’ intervention last night much further comment – perhaps qualified privilege defines a line in the sand?

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8th July: News, reports, blog updates on Insite Law

Mike SP

Editor pick of the day
8th July 2009

From Tom Harris MP’s blog…
Closer my God to thee

“I OVERHEARD a rather unkind reference to the denizens of the Upper House this evening:

Labour Lord: “We’re voting on assisted dying tonight – putting old people out of their misery.”

Labour MP: “Turkeys voting for Christmas, then?”

In the end they didn’t. Vote for Christmas, I mean.”

And this, from Scott Greenfield of Simple Justice, is PURE GOLD about Twitter…

Unfollowed in St. Louis

From Simon Myerson QC’s blog Pupillage and how to get it.

This is from Counsel magazine but Simon Myerson thinks thinks it deserves the widest possible circulation. I agree.

“Derek Wood QC is conducting the review of pupillage. He is having a drinks reception on Monday 13th July in Lincoln’s Inn at 530pm. If you are a pupil, or a recently completed pupil, you should have had an invitation. If not then get in touch with Andrea Clerk at the BSB – aclerk@barstandardsboard.org.uk – and go along.

The review is genuinely interested in your experiences and your thoughts. So make sure that those conducting it know what they are. And ask for an amnesty for pupil bloggers… “

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